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Scenic Rim · Harold Jenyns Lookout

Harold Jenyns Lookout from minimally formed natural track off Tamborine Mountain Road

entry is a track 985 m of climb chain confidence C — provenance grade C: Statutory inference harold-jenyns-lookout--from-minimally-formed-natural-track-off-tamborine-mountain-road-2
  • A Gazetted / register — The fact is itself a statutory record.
  • B Official spatial record — Read from a maintained government layer.
  • C Statutory inference — Law applied to B-grade records; not ground-truthed.
  • D Community record — Community sources; labelled, never blended into A–C.

Access verdict · tier 2 of 4 · confidence C (statutory inference, the weakest grade in the chain)

A lawful approach from minimally formed natural track off Tamborine Mountain Road, with caveats.

The chain below runs entirely across land the public has an established right to be on. It is a legal line, not a path: nothing here has been surveyed on the ground.

  1. 1 · Lawful, nothing to flag Every leg is ground the public may cross, and nothing about the chain needs a warning. Whether a built track runs along it is said separately.
  2. 2 · Lawful, with caveats A lawful chain with at least one thing about it that has to be said first. This page is here.
  3. 3 · Unconfirmed No lawful chain could be established from the public record. No route published.
  4. 4 · No lawful route Enclosed by land the public has no right to cross. No route published.

On-ground signage and temporary closures override this page. Always.

Getting to the start The trailhead coordinate, not the feature

The start is at -27.90935, 153.18555

That is minimally formed natural track off Tamborine Mountain Road, where the walk below begins — 10.5 km of it. Every link here goes to that coordinate and never to the feature itself, because a driving route to a waterfall is a driving route into the country above one.

-27.90935, 153.18555

The record does not say what reaches the start The roads layer leaves trafficability unstated on most of its rows, and it is unstated here. That is an absence of evidence, not an ordinary road: treat the last stretch as unresearched.

The coordinate is where the recorded way begins, read off the same layers as the walk. What the record says about a vehicle is above, and it describes this point rather than the drive to it. Whether the road is sealed, gated, or open today, and where a car may lawfully be left, are none of them things these records say — so treat the last few kilometres as unresearched, and the mapping service's route to them as its own work, not ours.

The chain, leg by leg Computed from cadastral geometry; never walked

Legs of the computed corridor, in order, with the grade of the record that made each one lawful
# Runs along Parcel / reference Mapped along it Distance Bearing Evidence
1 Road reserve 1682201 nothing mapped 1170.0 m 327.4° NNW B — provenance grade B: Official spatial record
2 Protected estate 326NPW909 nothing mapped 255.3 m 9.5° N B — provenance grade B: Official spatial record
3 Road reserve 573275 an unnamed minimally formed natural open 102.4 m 8.4° N B — provenance grade B: Official spatial record
4 Protected estate 326NPW909 nothing mapped 1075.7 m 24.2° NNE B — provenance grade B: Official spatial record
5 Protected estate 441NPW909 nothing mapped 1967.7 m 36.3° NE B — provenance grade B: Official spatial record
6 Road reserve 2537692 Cedar Creek Break open 101.8 m 27.4° NNE B — provenance grade B: Official spatial record
7 Watercourse bed 2537806 nothing mapped 948.2 m 42.8° NE C — provenance grade C: Statutory inference
8 Road reserve 2547192 nothing mapped 1488.3 m 136.7° SE B — provenance grade B: Official spatial record
9 Road reserve 2590246 nothing mapped 140.3 m 176.3° S B — provenance grade B: Official spatial record
10 Road reserve 2588802 nothing mapped 638.6 m 188.4° S B — provenance grade B: Official spatial record
11 Road reserve 2579302 nothing mapped 33.5 m 221.8° SW B — provenance grade B: Official spatial record
12 Road reserve 2579378 nothing mapped 1815.8 m 203.3° SSW B — provenance grade B: Official spatial record
13 Road reserve 52385 nothing mapped 112.3 m 250.5° WSW B — provenance grade B: Official spatial record
14 Road reserve 1313785 nothing mapped 649.6 m 234.1° SW B — provenance grade B: Official spatial record
Total 176.3 m mapped 10499.5 m Chain confidence C — provenance grade C: Statutory inference

Every leg above is computed from cadastral geometry. Nobody has walked it, and no part of it is a path on the ground: it is the line along which the public record establishes a right to be. Where a leg names a way, that is what a managing authority has mapped down the same ground — it says nothing more about your right to be there, which the parcel already settled.

Caveats — what kept this off tier 1

  • Corner-point junction. Two parcels in the chain meet at a single survey point. They are legally continuous public land, but the junction has no width on the ground.
  • Watercourse crossing. The chain crosses a watercourse bed. The bed is State land by statutory inference, there is no structure, and the crossing is off in high flow.
  • Measured crossing. The narrowest gap between 2537692 and 2547192 is 509.53 m. There is no structure. Do not cross in high flow.

Following it on the ground No steps, but the record maps ground here

at least 7¼ hours out and back

at least 3¾ hours there at least 3½ hours back

985 m up and 820 m down on the way out — so the return leg climbs 820 m.

Walking only — nothing is counted for rest, water, photographs, navigation, or the state of the track.

Naismith's rule, and what it does not account for

What is mapped along this chain

A managing authority has surveyed a way along 176 m of this 10500 m chain — about 2% of it. That is a statement about what is on the ground, not about your right to be there, which the parcels above already settled, and not a direction: no step below is measured along any of these ways.

  • Leg 3 an unnamed minimally formed natural B — provenance grade B: Official spatial record

    84 m along it · the managing authority publishes it as open to the public (Local Government Authority).

  • Leg 6 Cedar Creek Break B — provenance grade B: Official spatial record

    93 m along it · the managing authority publishes it as open to the public .

No directions are published for this approach. The chain above is a statement about permission, not a path, and turning a run of parcels into "walk north-east for 380 m" would tell you where to walk on evidence nobody holds — including where a way is mapped along it, because what was measured is the chain and not the way. Steps appear here only for a route that follows a surveyed way end to end.

How much climbing Read off the published contour layer

Distance along the route, 0 to 10451.0 m · height 60.0 to 505.0 m Read off 5.0 m contours along the route's own line B — provenance grade B: Official spatial record
Total climb
985.0 m
Total descent
820.0 m
Steepest sustained
80.5% over 55.9 m
Contour interval
5.0 m
Every height the contours record along this route
Contour crossings along the route, in order, as distance along the route against mapped height
Distance along Height
59.1 m 340.0 m
81.8 m 335.0 m
105.7 m 330.0 m
133.5 m 325.0 m
146.6 m 320.0 m
163.7 m 315.0 m
183.0 m 310.0 m
203.3 m 305.0 m
219.8 m 300.0 m
232.9 m 295.0 m
235.2 m 295.0 m
243.4 m 295.0 m
303.2 m 290.0 m
392.9 m 285.0 m
423.8 m 280.0 m
475.9 m 275.0 m
501.8 m 270.0 m
506.3 m 270.0 m
542.7 m 270.0 m
626.9 m 265.0 m
657.1 m 260.0 m
672.6 m 260.0 m
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849.4 m 255.0 m
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957.7 m 255.0 m
1034.8 m 255.0 m
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1228.2 m 250.0 m
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8091.1 m 350.0 m
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8313.6 m 305.0 m
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8357.2 m 315.0 m
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8426.3 m 340.0 m
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8654.3 m 355.0 m
8663.4 m 360.0 m
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8715.5 m 385.0 m
8726.8 m 390.0 m
8737.7 m 395.0 m
8749.9 m 400.0 m
8761.0 m 405.0 m
8777.6 m 410.0 m
8800.4 m 415.0 m
8912.9 m 420.0 m
8968.3 m 425.0 m
9026.8 m 430.0 m
9069.0 m 435.0 m
9151.6 m 440.0 m
9152.6 m 440.0 m
9166.5 m 440.0 m
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9295.6 m 435.0 m
9316.1 m 430.0 m
9334.9 m 425.0 m
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9365.1 m 415.0 m
9377.6 m 410.0 m
9388.8 m 405.0 m
9404.3 m 400.0 m
9415.7 m 400.0 m
9476.0 m 400.0 m
9505.8 m 400.0 m
9513.2 m 405.0 m
9521.7 m 410.0 m
9532.0 m 415.0 m
9543.7 m 420.0 m
9555.7 m 425.0 m
9567.7 m 430.0 m
9583.0 m 435.0 m
9603.3 m 440.0 m
9688.0 m 445.0 m
9714.2 m 450.0 m
9865.4 m 455.0 m
9908.5 m 460.0 m
9935.0 m 465.0 m
10012.4 m 465.0 m
10047.3 m 460.0 m
10099.3 m 455.0 m
10113.6 m 455.0 m
10152.3 m 460.0 m
10199.5 m 465.0 m
10203.3 m 465.0 m
10238.7 m 460.0 m
10248.0 m 460.0 m
10268.3 m 465.0 m
10285.8 m 470.0 m
10303.8 m 475.0 m
10321.1 m 480.0 m
10343.0 m 485.0 m
10364.6 m 490.0 m
10390.1 m 495.0 m
10417.5 m 500.0 m
10451.0 m 505.0 m

The profile is the height the contour layer already records, read along the same line the legs above describe. It is not a survey of a path: nothing here says the ground between two contours is even, and a layer of 5.0 m contours cannot evidence a step smaller than the gap between them.

The line on the ground

Map

Route map: 14 legs from minimally formed natural track off Tamborine Mountain Road, 10499.5 m in total.

Every figure the map would draw — parcel references, distances, bearings and the crossing gap — is written out in full on this page, so nothing is only visible on the map. If the map does not load, nothing has been lost.

What this verdict rests on Grades compose to the weakest link

  • The destination sits on the parcel below

    Parcel not resolved, recorded tenure "unresolved". Being at the destination and reaching it are separate questions, and this page answers only the second.

    Cadastre and protected-area estate layers Attribution licensed; see the footer

  • Leg 1: 1682201 carries a right of passage B — provenance grade B: Official spatial record

    1170.0 m at 327.4°. Read from the mapped parcel geometry in the official layer, with no inference beyond what the record states.

    Leg reference 1682201 Grade B

  • Leg 2: 326NPW909 carries a right of passage B — provenance grade B: Official spatial record

    255.3 m at 9.5°. Read from the mapped parcel geometry in the official layer, with no inference beyond what the record states.

    Leg reference 326NPW909 Grade B

  • Leg 3: 573275 carries a right of passage B — provenance grade B: Official spatial record

    102.4 m at 8.4°. Read from the mapped parcel geometry in the official layer, with no inference beyond what the record states.

    Leg reference 573275 Grade B

  • Leg 4: 326NPW909 carries a right of passage B — provenance grade B: Official spatial record

    1075.7 m at 24.2°. Read from the mapped parcel geometry in the official layer, with no inference beyond what the record states.

    Leg reference 326NPW909 Grade B

  • Leg 5: 441NPW909 carries a right of passage B — provenance grade B: Official spatial record

    1967.7 m at 36.3°. Read from the mapped parcel geometry in the official layer, with no inference beyond what the record states.

    Leg reference 441NPW909 Grade B

  • Leg 6: 2537692 carries a right of passage B — provenance grade B: Official spatial record

    101.8 m at 27.4°. Read from the mapped parcel geometry in the official layer, with no inference beyond what the record states.

    Leg reference 2537692 Grade B

  • Leg 7: 2537806 carries a right of passage C — provenance grade C: Statutory inference

    948.2 m at 42.8°. The bed is State land by statutory inference from the Water Act 2000 (Qld) s.21 — law applied to a mapped parcel, not a finding by any authority.

    Leg reference 2537806 Grade C

  • Leg 8: 2547192 carries a right of passage B — provenance grade B: Official spatial record

    1488.3 m at 136.7°. Read from the mapped parcel geometry in the official layer, with no inference beyond what the record states.

    Leg reference 2547192 Grade B

  • Leg 9: 2590246 carries a right of passage B — provenance grade B: Official spatial record

    140.3 m at 176.3°. Read from the mapped parcel geometry in the official layer, with no inference beyond what the record states.

    Leg reference 2590246 Grade B

  • Leg 10: 2588802 carries a right of passage B — provenance grade B: Official spatial record

    638.6 m at 188.4°. Read from the mapped parcel geometry in the official layer, with no inference beyond what the record states.

    Leg reference 2588802 Grade B

  • Leg 11: 2579302 carries a right of passage B — provenance grade B: Official spatial record

    33.5 m at 221.8°. Read from the mapped parcel geometry in the official layer, with no inference beyond what the record states.

    Leg reference 2579302 Grade B

  • Leg 12: 2579378 carries a right of passage B — provenance grade B: Official spatial record

    1815.8 m at 203.3°. Read from the mapped parcel geometry in the official layer, with no inference beyond what the record states.

    Leg reference 2579378 Grade B

  • Leg 13: 52385 carries a right of passage B — provenance grade B: Official spatial record

    112.3 m at 250.5°. Read from the mapped parcel geometry in the official layer, with no inference beyond what the record states.

    Leg reference 52385 Grade B

  • Leg 14: 1313785 carries a right of passage B — provenance grade B: Official spatial record

    649.6 m at 234.1°. Read from the mapped parcel geometry in the official layer, with no inference beyond what the record states.

    Leg reference 1313785 Grade B

  • The chain is only as strong as its weakest link C — provenance grade C: Statutory inference

    Confidence is not an average. It is the weakest grade in the chain above, which is why a single inferred leg holds the whole route at grade C.

    Composition rule: weakest grade wins Applied at build time

If something goes wrong

Emergency reference — read this to 000

Location
Harold Jenyns Lookout
Lot on plan
not established from the cadastre
Coordinates
-27.90278, 153.19861 (WGS84 / GDA2020)
Feature
lookout

What this page will never do

  • No user pins

    Every fact here traces to a government layer or a statute and carries a grade, A to C. Community names are quarantined at grade D and labelled as such. Nothing on this page was dropped on a map by a stranger.

  • No invented lawfulness

    Where tenure cannot be confirmed from the public record, the page says so instead of endorsing the route or quietly hiding it. Where no lawful corridor exists at all, none is published — the refusal is the answer.

  • No safety pretence

    A tier is a tenure verdict, not a difficulty or safety rating. Unmanaged terrain, cliffs and flash flooding are not in the cadastre. The engine reads land records, not the weather.

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